1 00:00:03,500 --> 00:00:02,060 and this month we are highlighting many 2 00:00:05,930 --> 00:00:03,510 of the technology tests and 3 00:00:08,150 --> 00:00:05,940 demonstrations aboard the ISS the 4 00:00:09,980 --> 00:00:08,160 technology we are talking about today 5 00:00:11,450 --> 00:00:09,990 actually allows us to have an 6 00:00:13,850 --> 00:00:11,460 International Space Station where 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:13,860 astronauts can live and work in a 8 00:00:19,429 --> 00:00:16,890 comfortable environment Lori Meggs is at 9 00:00:20,810 --> 00:00:19,439 NASA's payload operations integration 10 00:00:23,290 --> 00:00:20,820 Center at the Marshall Space Flight 11 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:23,300 Center to tell us more Laurie 12 00:00:26,870 --> 00:00:25,529 breathing in fresh air and drinking 13 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:26,880 clean water are probably some of the 14 00:00:30,439 --> 00:00:28,410 things we take for granted here on earth 15 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:30,449 but in space it's a well thought out 16 00:00:34,370 --> 00:00:32,820 process that has taken years to develop 17 00:00:35,870 --> 00:00:34,380 we're talking about the environmental 18 00:00:37,459 --> 00:00:35,880 control and life support system or 19 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:37,469 equalists and that's technology 20 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:39,809 development that helps our astronauts be 21 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:41,610 able to live and breathe in space on the 22 00:00:46,130 --> 00:00:43,680 orbiting laboratory joining me now is J 23 00:00:48,350 --> 00:00:46,140 Perry he has been with E Class and the 24 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:48,360 development for more than 20 years J 25 00:00:52,639 --> 00:00:50,910 first of all tell us about o'clock in 26 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:52,649 technology development this is really 27 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:55,680 the pinnacle it sure is and what the 28 00:01:00,729 --> 00:00:57,120 environmental control life support 29 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:00,739 system does is that it helps provide 30 00:01:06,289 --> 00:01:03,809 purified air good breathing air and also 31 00:01:08,420 --> 00:01:06,299 purified water and also maintains the 32 00:01:10,820 --> 00:01:08,430 temperature and humidity in the cabin it 33 00:01:12,050 --> 00:01:10,830 also helps with recycling resources so 34 00:01:13,820 --> 00:01:12,060 that we don't have to take as much from 35 00:01:16,190 --> 00:01:13,830 the ground and it keeps and it helps us 36 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:16,200 to make sure that the they operating the 37 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:18,810 space station or the vehicle is is much 38 00:01:21,679 --> 00:01:20,369 more economical yeah it's pretty 39 00:01:23,780 --> 00:01:21,689 expensive we were talking about how much 40 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:23,790 it costs to take a gallon of water oh 41 00:01:27,859 --> 00:01:26,070 yes I want to tell folks how much that 42 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:27,869 is well you know tens of thousands of 43 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:29,490 dollars just for a leader and you 44 00:01:33,230 --> 00:01:31,770 multiply that by four and you can get 45 00:01:35,090 --> 00:01:33,240 pretty expensive so that's why this 46 00:01:37,580 --> 00:01:35,100 technology development is so important 47 00:01:40,130 --> 00:01:37,590 how does it work well the life support 48 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:40,140 system uses a variety of processes you 49 00:01:45,499 --> 00:01:42,570 know we use chemical reactions we use 50 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:45,509 adsorption processes which an adsorption 51 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:47,040 process is sort of like a sponge you 52 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:49,619 know you you take this carbon dioxide 53 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:51,329 out with sort of a sponge-like material 54 00:01:55,910 --> 00:01:54,000 and then you can release it and send it 55 00:01:57,679 --> 00:01:55,920 to Thor another reactor or vent it 56 00:02:00,889 --> 00:01:57,689 overboard just to get it out of the 57 00:02:03,530 --> 00:02:00,899 cabin we also use a lot of processes 58 00:02:05,929 --> 00:02:03,540 that change phases so just like your air 59 00:02:07,459 --> 00:02:05,939 conditioner in your home there is a 60 00:02:09,499 --> 00:02:07,469 similar type device onboard the 61 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:09,509 spacecraft in the space station that 62 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:12,209 does the same thing and we've built on a 63 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:13,210 lot of history 64 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:15,130 from Skylab to Space Lab this is how 65 00:02:19,290 --> 00:02:17,290 we've learned this technology and how it 66 00:02:20,490 --> 00:02:19,300 works but we're looking at the future 67 00:02:22,050 --> 00:02:20,500 now tell us what we're doing for a 68 00:02:24,150 --> 00:02:22,060 future deep space exploration 69 00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:24,160 yes Laurie the the life support system 70 00:02:27,420 --> 00:02:25,660 development has been a progression you 71 00:02:29,550 --> 00:02:27,430 know going all the way back to the 72 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:29,560 mercury days and then through to Skylab 73 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:32,800 space lab Apollo etc and then on to 74 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:34,570 Space Station in fact some of the space 75 00:02:39,930 --> 00:02:36,610 station processes used onboard our 76 00:02:42,420 --> 00:02:39,940 legacy from Skylab and the shuttle 77 00:02:43,980 --> 00:02:42,430 program the Space Lab programs and then 78 00:02:45,570 --> 00:02:43,990 what we were looking at as far as being 79 00:02:48,330 --> 00:02:45,580 able to go into the deep space 80 00:02:50,610 --> 00:02:48,340 applications and in destinations we're 81 00:02:52,410 --> 00:02:50,620 trying to build on and learn from what 82 00:02:54,380 --> 00:02:52,420 we're learning with operations on the 83 00:02:56,580 --> 00:02:54,390 station how to improve these processes 84 00:02:59,580 --> 00:02:56,590 get to a point where we don't rely on 85 00:03:01,770 --> 00:02:59,590 ground-based resupply like we do now and 86 00:03:04,590 --> 00:03:01,780 that way we can go economically to these 87 00:03:07,740 --> 00:03:04,600 deep space destinations and you actually 88 00:03:09,930 --> 00:03:07,750 have a module a working module that has 89 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:09,940 a lot of pieces in there a lot of a lot 90 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:12,610 of flight hardware or development test 91 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:14,650 development right we have a engineering 92 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:16,840 development facility in which we have 93 00:03:21,570 --> 00:03:19,090 the carbon dioxide removal equipment 94 00:03:23,820 --> 00:03:21,580 trace contaminant 95 00:03:25,890 --> 00:03:23,830 carbon dioxide reduction in oxygen 96 00:03:27,450 --> 00:03:25,900 generation equipment and these are 97 00:03:31,410 --> 00:03:27,460 varying engineering development 98 00:03:33,540 --> 00:03:31,420 Fidelity's carbon dioxide removal and 99 00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:33,550 trace contaminants are very high 100 00:03:39,570 --> 00:03:36,190 functional fidelity and also they're 101 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:39,580 very much the same type of fit and form 102 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:41,650 in other words the packaging of those 103 00:03:46,980 --> 00:03:45,130 pieces of equipment our other pieces of 104 00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:46,990 equipment are very much engineering 105 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:49,000 oriented and so their packaging is 106 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:50,530 different but their function is really 107 00:03:55,170 --> 00:03:53,680 really high very much identical to what 108 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:55,180 station has and you're going to have to 109 00:03:58,610 --> 00:03:56,650 learn how to make that packaging even 110 00:04:01,140 --> 00:03:58,620 smaller farther right that's correct 111 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:01,150 let's talk about finally some of the 112 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:03,010 spin-off technologies the things that we 113 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:05,050 use here on earth that have come from 114 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:07,270 the equalist technology development okay 115 00:04:12,150 --> 00:04:09,760 we have a variety of both spin in and 116 00:04:15,090 --> 00:04:12,160 spin out actually you know spin in ours 117 00:04:17,670 --> 00:04:15,100 is that some of the adsorbent materials 118 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:17,680 and catalysts that we use really come 119 00:04:22,410 --> 00:04:20,890 from industry you know for pollution 120 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:22,420 control and things of that 121 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:26,290 nature however you know we also have 122 00:04:31,650 --> 00:04:29,140 importance as far as for instance in 123 00:04:34,980 --> 00:04:31,660 water purification in areas of the world 124 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:34,990 where purified water is a very hard 125 00:04:40,290 --> 00:04:37,450 commodity to come by many of the 126 00:04:42,540 --> 00:04:40,300 technologies used onboard the station to 127 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:42,550 purify water for the crew to drink have 128 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:44,770 been put on portable platforms to take 129 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:46,630 into these remote areas to provide 130 00:04:50,370 --> 00:04:49,120 people with purified water at the same 131 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:50,380 time we're learning more and more about 132 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:52,570 you having to deal with our carbon 133 00:04:58,610 --> 00:04:55,240 dioxide emissions from industry power 134 00:05:02,130 --> 00:04:58,620 plants and one of the more interesting 135 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:02,140 sources is in producing cement which we 136 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:04,930 use a lot of them on earth that's one of 137 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:06,490 the greatest sources of carbon dioxide 138 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:09,730 production into our atmosphere and so 139 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:11,260 we're working very hard right now to 140 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:12,730 take some of our carbon dioxide 141 00:05:17,010 --> 00:05:14,830 reduction processes starting with what's 142 00:05:19,950 --> 00:05:17,020 used on station and expanding out and 143 00:05:22,890 --> 00:05:19,960 applying that to controlling emissions 144 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:22,900 produced by cement manufacturing very 145 00:05:26,610 --> 00:05:24,910 interesting work Jay and here's to 20 146 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:26,620 more years of you and Nicholas all right 147 00:05:29,490 --> 00:05:28,000 thank you all right thanks Jay 148 00:05:31,380 --> 00:05:29,500 to find out more about this and other 149 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:31,390 technologies that are making use of the 150 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:34,300 ISS join us for our destination station 151 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:37,090 forum on October 27th from the US Space 152 00:05:41,340 --> 00:05:38,710 and Rocket Center here in Huntsville it 153 00:05:42,810 --> 00:05:41,350 will be broadcast live on NASA TV and 154 00:05:44,670 --> 00:05:42,820 feature experts in many of the 155 00:05:47,010 --> 00:05:44,680 technology demonstration fields such as 156 00:05:50,340 --> 00:05:47,020 eclipse that will be from 9 to 10 a.m. 157 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:50,350 Central time again on NASA TV that's it 158 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:51,730 for us at the payload operations